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Title: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on March 23, 2009, 12:57:50 PM
If you want help classing your car, this is the place.

Option 1. Download the SCCA rule book from the link below and find out what class your car falls under.

SOLO Cars and Rules (http://scca.com/contentpage.aspx?content=61)

Option 2. List out your entire list of mods that you have done to your car and have one of the more experienced members reply back in this thread and help you correctly classify your car. Remeber ANYTHING that didn't come in your car from the factory is considered a mod. Eg: Clutches, SS brakelines, intake, tranny swap, head porting, engine internals, batteries, short shifter, bodykits, non factory LSDs, springs, shocks, ECU reflash, engine management, even tire width and aftermarket antennas will put you in a different class.


NOTE: Details on the Nebraska region only classes  (taken from here (http://nrscca.com/solo_classes.php))

Street Tire PAX and Ladies PAX

If you have street tires (treadwear rating 140 or higher) you have the option of running in the Street Tire PAX class instead of the Open class. Mark the "Street Tire" box if you desire to enter that class. (You cannot enter the Street Tire PAX class if you are in ST, STS, STX, STU, or STR since those classes are already on street tires.)

If you are female and want to only run against the other ladies in the Ladies PAX class, mark the "Ladies" box.

Now that you know what classes Nebraska Region uses ... which class are you in?

Start with what modifications you have done. This will determine which category you fall into. Then go to that section of the rule book and find your car. That is the class you enter on your tech card. Timing needs to know the class even if you are running in the Street Tire PAX class or the Ladies PAX class.

"PAX is the term that's been around since the inception of the Index. It stands for Professional Autocross (AutoX). The term came into play in the 1970's in order to determine a Grand Champion for the Portage (Indiana) Grand Prix. It was a Street Autocross down the main street and into a parking lot in Portage, Indiana." -- Rick Ruth (creator of the PAX index)

Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Elm on March 23, 2009, 07:09:27 PM
After reading the rules, it looks like my car is ok for BSP??

My car has the following:

Engine:

Suspension:

Misc:
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: 99STM on March 23, 2009, 10:16:19 PM
I doubt I'd even pass inspection. No muffler and my tires are just about bald.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on March 24, 2009, 07:02:46 AM
I doubt I'd even pass inspection. No muffler and my tires are just about bald.

neither of those are an issue as long as you aren't running at a site w/ noise restriction. Which none of the NR sites are that I'm aware. There will be cars there louder than you are now.  And many will be on near bald tires. ;)
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on March 24, 2009, 07:03:06 AM
After reading the rules, it looks like my car is ok for BSP??

My car has the following:

Engine:
  • K&N short ram intake
  • Cobb AP V2 /w stage two map
  • Cat-less turbo back exhaust

Suspension:
  • Prodrive lowering springs

Misc:
  • Lightweight battery
  • TiC Shift lever bushings
  • Kartboy exhaust hangers
  • Defi Gauge setup

What's your wheel/tire setup Eric?

Regardless you're looking at BSP, if on street tires you can run the indexed class so BSP-ST.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Elm on March 24, 2009, 07:39:46 AM
What's your wheel/tire setup Eric?

Regardless you're looking at BSP, if on street tires you can run the indexed class so BSP-ST.

Jon,

Stock BBS (17x8) with RE070's (225 width)
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on March 24, 2009, 08:06:49 AM
yeah. I'd do BSP-ST if you don't mind running the index class.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: PhamilySedan on March 28, 2009, 11:15:35 AM
hmmm can anybody tell me what class i'm in?  I got some mods since last year lol

-borla header
-stromung test pipe
-stromung CB
-intake

-kyb agx paired up with ground controls
-camber bolts
-20mm RSB

-exedy stage 1 clutch
-cobb double adjustable short shifter

-hankook rs-2 (225 55r 16) i think they are 55's maybe 50's lolz i'll have to check

that's all that i remember off the top of my head as far as performance modifications

hahaha I just read that body kits will affect class so here is what i've done with the body

-ver. 5/6 front lip
-JDM rear spats
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: LDeuce on April 01, 2009, 09:30:20 AM
I was wondering what class I was in too.. I've read the rules and think my car would fall in SM because of the cams.

-Header
-Catback (stock cats)
-LW Flywheel
-Stage II Full disc clutch
-Mild Street Regrind Cams
-Cold Air Intake
-Front strut brace
-16x6.5 wrx rims, 205/50r16 98w street tires
-Full interior.
-2 inch I think Tanabe drop springs

I thought that entering and being SM I would get completely stomped (probably will) but when I was out there I definetly saw it was the driver 90% and the car 10%. So I'm pretty set on entering next time for fun.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on April 01, 2009, 10:42:00 AM
hmmm can anybody tell me what class i'm in?  I got some mods since last year lol

-borla header
-stromung test pipe
-stromung CB
-intake

-kyb agx paired up with ground controls
-camber bolts
-20mm RSB

-exedy stage 1 clutch
-cobb double adjustable short shifter

-hankook rs-2 (225 55r 16) i think they are 55's maybe 50's lolz i'll have to check

that's all that i remember off the top of my head as far as performance modifications

hahaha I just read that body kits will affect class so here is what i've done with the body

-ver. 5/6 front lip
-JDM rear spats

DSP or DSP-ST
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on April 01, 2009, 10:42:51 AM
I was wondering what class I was in too.. I've read the rules and think my car would fall in SM because of the cams.

-Header
-Catback (stock cats)
-LW Flywheel
-Stage II Full disc clutch
-Mild Street Regrind Cams
-Cold Air Intake
-Front strut brace
-16x6.5 wrx rims, 205/50r16 98w street tires
-Full interior.
-2 inch I think Tanabe drop springs

I thought that entering and being SM I would get completely stomped (probably will) but when I was out there I definetly saw it was the driver 90% and the car 10%. So I'm pretty set on entering next time for fun.

SM or SM-ST
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: LDeuce on April 01, 2009, 11:49:34 AM
Thanks for confirming. looking at the last list what group of cars would that put me in? SM, SM2 or Street Tires? So many classes....
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on April 01, 2009, 12:38:41 PM
Thanks for confirming. looking at the last list what group of cars would that put me in? SM, SM2 or Street Tires? So many classes....

what do you mean? You would be in SM or SM-ST as I said.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Cartel on April 22, 2009, 09:15:55 AM
I need your help Track Gurus here is my mod list

engine
Cobb ap v2 stage 2 map
aps 65mm CAI
cobb post maf hose
catless 3in TBE
turboxs BPV

Driveline
perrin v1 SS
cobb front stay bushing
kartboy rear stay bushing
TIC shift linkage bushings

Tiers are Yokohama AS 430's they are just all season tiers if that matters I will look at the rule book to see were I should fit in.  I was just hoping to here from some of you vets [bThanks in advance[/b]  :blink:
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on April 22, 2009, 09:35:58 AM
BSP or BSP-ST
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Cartel on April 22, 2009, 10:05:19 AM
Thank you very much Jon.  Man I feel like a nerd I am on the motorsortreg page for the autox this weekend and I cant seem to register for it what do I click on to register. :unsure: :unsure:
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: AZN on April 22, 2009, 10:18:48 AM
https://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.advert/uidEvent/C933689D-BCB8-3FD4-A2C5917346B45633

then click the green next at the bottom
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Cartel on April 22, 2009, 10:22:08 AM
WOW I cant belive I did not see that button down there  :lol:
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Cartel on April 22, 2009, 10:36:35 AM
BSP or BSP-ST
So i am picking my class right now I see bsp but not bsp-st is bsp a better class for a new guy sorry for the dumb qestions I have never done any of this befor.
never mind I went with bsp
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: DIGA_DELAY on April 26, 2009, 11:56:31 AM
hmmm can anybody tell me what class i'm in?  I got some mods since last year lol

-borla header
-stromung test pipe
-stromung CB
-intake

-kyb agx paired up with ground controls
-camber bolts
-20mm RSB

-exedy stage 1 clutch
-cobb double adjustable short shifter

-hankook rs-2 (225 55r 16) i think they are 55's maybe 50's lolz i'll have to check

that's all that i remember off the top of my head as far as performance modifications

hahaha I just read that body kits will affect class so here is what i've done with the body

-ver. 5/6 front lip
-JDM rear spats

I was running STS with the car when I had it. If the car still has the high flow cat you are fine for STS. If you did in fact change it to a test pipe (which doesn't have a cat) then you would prob be DSP.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: allskate03 on June 06, 2009, 02:38:09 AM
i think i ran stu or stx last time but i dont remember.

mods
bov
hacked air box
sti top mount
sti engine mounts
sti tranny mount
sti replica front tower strut bar
tic clunk killer
tic shifter bushings
sti up pipe
3in catless dp
3in catless catback
kartboy extended exhaust hangers
18in blitz wheels with nittos on them dont remember this size of the tire
think thats all the performance stuff that i have
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on June 06, 2009, 08:39:52 PM
hmmm can anybody tell me what class i'm in?  I got some mods since last year lol

-borla header
-stromung test pipe
-stromung CB
-intake

-kyb agx paired up with ground controls
-camber bolts
-20mm RSB

-exedy stage 1 clutch
-cobb double adjustable short shifter

-hankook rs-2 (225 55r 16) i think they are 55's maybe 50's lolz i'll have to check

that's all that i remember off the top of my head as far as performance modifications

hahaha I just read that body kits will affect class so here is what i've done with the body

-ver. 5/6 front lip
-JDM rear spats

I was running STS with the car when I had it. If the car still has the high flow cat you are fine for STS. If you did in fact change it to a test pipe (which doesn't have a cat) then you would prob be DSP.

even w/ a legal high flow cat, the clutch keeps it from being legal for any ST class.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on June 06, 2009, 08:41:51 PM
i think i ran stu or stx last time but i dont remember.

mods
bov
hacked air box
sti top mount
sti engine mounts
sti tranny mount
sti replica front tower strut bar
tic clunk killer
tic shifter bushings
sti up pipe
3in catless dp
3in catless catback
kartboy extended exhaust hangers
18in blitz wheels with nittos on them dont remember this size of the tire
think thats all the performance stuff that i have

those mods on a wrx = ESP or ESP-ST.

what keeps you out of ST* is being catless, and the different intercooler and BOV.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Lesac on June 09, 2009, 09:23:38 PM
So I think I wanna get more into autox...
anyway my mod list thus far.

turbo xs catless up pipe,
HKS downpipe,
tanabe catback exhaust,
turboxs UTEC,
Agency Power BOV,
Competition Clutch stage 2 clutch
18in RSL rims with continental contiextremecontact, tires.
only other thing is currently the car has a carbon hood which I believe puts me in a different class. this isnt a big deal because i can put the stock hood back on, but im just wondering both ways.
thanks guys.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on June 10, 2009, 06:24:50 AM
those mods w/ stock hood - ESP / ESP-ST
those mods w/ CF hood - SM / SM-ST

Just keep the car as is and bring it out and have fun.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: takenthepride on June 11, 2009, 09:16:30 PM
Mods whats my class
1. Short shift
2. wrx catback turbo muffler
3. Haltech ECU
4. upgraded 2.2 to 2.5
5. upgraded to wrx brakes
6. SS brake lines
7. Performance stage 2 clutch
8. strut braces
9. bigger wheels and tires 16inch wheel with 225 45 tires instead of stock wheels
10. RS hood and bumper
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on June 12, 2009, 07:05:19 AM
SM / SM-ST
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Jake_O on June 12, 2009, 08:02:12 PM
91 galant vr4 awd
2.0 engine size
Foraged Ross pistons .30 over
Ported heads
280bc cams
evo316g turbo run what ya brung boost ( as much as it can make )
large intercooler
950 fic injectors
250 walbro pump
tubular o2 houseing w/ external dump
3inch all the way back 1 3inch cat 1 resinator
DSMLink EM
3inch gm maf
3.3 bar map senser

Hotbits 35way adjustable suspension
Camber plates
Chrome moly LW flywheel
4puck sprung clutch
whiteline f/r strut tower bars
no rear sway
225 width RE01-r's

No interior ie dash and two evo 8 front seats.
What am i in john :D
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on June 13, 2009, 10:18:27 AM
not sure what prepared class that would put you in Jake.

XP is for sure available, but there is another ?P class you can likely fit into.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Jake_O on June 13, 2009, 11:20:16 AM
lol wtf jon i thought u was da masta
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: jton on June 14, 2009, 12:05:25 AM
1993 Subaru Impreza L Wagon

Engine:
EJ22T
Stroked to 2.4
Wiseco Pistons
48mm Chromoly H Beam Rods
EJ25 Phase I Crank
ACL Bearings
USDM Turbo Legacy;
 ECU/harness
 Intake Manifold
EJ20G DOHC Heads
JDM Turbo Legacy Transmission 4.11
OEM WRX Clutch and Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel
440cc injectors
Walbro 255
VF-39 on 15psi
BPM Thick Bar/Plate TMIC
HKS SSQV
K/N Cone Filter
HKS turbo timer
HKS Fuel Cut Defender
Custom 4" Bellmouth DP and 3" trackpipe
2.5" Mid-pipe/OEM STi axelback


Suspension/Brakes:
Eibach Pro-Kit
AGX front struts
GR-2 rear struts
02-05 WRX Wagon Rear Lateral Links
Whitline Adj. 20-24mm rsb
OEM HD RSB mounts
Whiteline solid endlinks
Legacy 4 Wheel Disc/Caliper Upgrade (2pot/1pot)

Wheels:
MY98 5-Spokes Gold
Goodyear all seaons 205-55-r16 (need new rubber soon)

Interior:
V8 STi front seats

Thanks in advance Jon.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on June 15, 2009, 01:24:26 PM
lol wtf jon i thought u was da masta

the rule book is the master.

you get above SP and I'm not likely to be much help.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on June 15, 2009, 01:25:16 PM
1993 Subaru Impreza L Wagon

Engine:
EJ22T
Stroked to 2.4
Wiseco Pistons
48mm Chromoly H Beam Rods
EJ25 Phase I Crank
ACL Bearings
USDM Turbo Legacy;
 ECU/harness
 Intake Manifold
EJ20G DOHC Heads
JDM Turbo Legacy Transmission 4.11
OEM WRX Clutch and Fidanza Lightweight Flywheel
440cc injectors
Walbro 255
VF-39 on 15psi
BPM Thick Bar/Plate TMIC
HKS SSQV
K/N Cone Filter
HKS turbo timer
HKS Fuel Cut Defender
Custom 4" Bellmouth DP and 3" trackpipe
2.5" Mid-pipe/OEM STi axelback


Suspension/Brakes:
Eibach Pro-Kit
AGX front struts
GR-2 rear struts
02-05 WRX Wagon Rear Lateral Links
Whitline Adj. 20-24mm rsb
OEM HD RSB mounts
Whiteline solid endlinks
Legacy 4 Wheel Disc/Caliper Upgrade (2pot/1pot)

Wheels:
MY98 5-Spokes Gold
Goodyear all seaons 205-55-r16 (need new rubber soon)

Interior:
V8 STi front seats

Thanks in advance Jon.

SM or SM-ST is where you should run it.

get some good tyres
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: rick schumacher on July 28, 2009, 06:34:29 PM
does anybody run for the #### of it?
i would love to just run the course for the #### of it
my car is pretty sad though

98 2.5rs
old junky no name adjustable springs
kyb agx adjustable struts
no name intake piping
advanced auto replacement a/f
off road-### generic tires - all seasons

no search needed, but curious, off the top of your head, would this put me in street touring? 
- id be in bad shape, shes lifted as much as it goes, probly 1/2 to about an inch higher than stock, which would not do well on track, i know

-1 more thing, any main reasons they wouldnt let you run??
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: WRXNFX on July 30, 2009, 09:58:27 AM
does anybody run for the #### of it?
i would love to just run the course for the #### of it
my car is pretty sad though

98 2.5rs
old junky no name adjustable springs
kyb agx adjustable struts
no name intake piping
advanced auto replacement a/f
off road-### generic tires - all seasons

no search needed, but curious, off the top of your head, would this put me in street touring? 
- id be in bad shape, shes lifted as much as it goes, probly 1/2 to about an inch higher than stock, which would not do well on track, i know

-1 more thing, any main reasons they wouldnt let you run??

Loose battery will cut you quickly.  Need to have a good tie down.

Positive trottle return is a must.

Non-squishy brakes

Bald tires are a no go.

To be honest your first time you could just pic a class sts is a good guess, they will not challenge you bing in that class, and you are far enough in the season you are not going to win out.

Worst thing they would do is retor activily change you to a different class.  Show up when the for says class talk it out with the guys, they may change their mind, should not be a big deal.

Worst they can really do is throw out your runs.

Sneel 95 or newer helmet is a good idea.  They should have loaners.

Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on July 30, 2009, 10:12:44 AM
you mean ST...

STS is for two seaters
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: rick schumacher on July 30, 2009, 06:42:57 PM
right on
with a low paying job, girlfriend who lives with me and goes to school , not to mention my dog, im guessing i probly wont be doin any racing for a LOONG while.
my *goal* is to be there in about 2 years.(long time i know)
id be laughed at up and down out there.  but i did hear you can go run the track for like 30 bucks or something.  but ive never hear about it when it goes down

thanx for checkn
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: WRXNFX on February 10, 2010, 11:05:31 AM
I Auto x'd  ,y 04 WRX for 2 years in KC, started in STX, then stage 2 put me in ESP, then GMC Envoy totaled my car. R-Comps and race rims would't swap over, so I sold them, moved to Omaha last year so too busy to Auto X, sad sad story.:(

So, this year I want to jump back in it.  Seems like BSP or SM are the way to go, I cam make the ST call later.

I am really just hoping someone is as familiar with SP as I used to be and can say "X,Y, and Z disqualify you from BSP"  then I can choose to pull it, or run SM.

Is Launch Control or FFS legal at all in Auto X?  A quick flash will kill it, but flashign every week, or, driving without it, are less optimal.  :)


2004 Sti - Platinum Silver Metallic

Engine Mods
Custom MKC Enginuity Stage 2
TinyWRX Flat Foot Shift and Launch Control
Cobb Uppipe
Cobb Catted Downpipe
SPT Catback 
Typhoon Intake
TXS TMIC
GMBCS
JDM Auto Intercooler Sprayer Switch
Kartboy Pitch-Stop Mount (Dog Bone)

Suspension/Drivetrain
COBB Sway Bars 
Kartboy End Links
HAWK HPS Pads Rear
CarboTech Brake Pads Front
Ebay Pink Front and Back Strut Bars
Goodridge SS Brake lines
Whiteline Race Transmission mount bushings
Perrin subframe lock down
Kartboy Shortshifter
Kartboy Shifter Bushings
RCE front caster/camber plates
RCE Tarmac II's
GTWorx Rear camber plates
Whiteline Steering Rack Bushings

Wheels
Stock BBS w/ 1/4" spacers and Dunlop Direzza Star Specs

Interior/Exterior
Tein Hood Dampers
Blacked out Headlight
Front Grill Subaru emblem delete.
Debadged and De stickered except Sti front and rear emblem
Hardwired Valentine one with remote display
Hella Super tones
AutoSpeed dead pedal
AutoSpeed Guage bezel with Boost Guage.
Blacked out Dash
JDM Hazard switch
WRX fogs w/ Fog light fix
Painted snorkus, belt cover, fuse cover and WW sprayer reservoir
Dealer option Sub-woofer
07 tail lights
Carbing Under Panel
Rally Armor Flaps
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Rockcas on February 10, 2010, 01:59:12 PM
The different Top mount and since I'm sure you changed the boost in your tune is automatic SM.  You can still have a tune but keep the boost the same. 

Not sure about launch control. My guess would be a no no as well.

Change those and your good for BSP,  You could even qualify for STU if you take out the pitch stop.  Be nice to see someone give Christy a good challenge.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on February 10, 2010, 02:02:31 PM
The only possible red flag for BSP I see is the GM boost control solenoid, and the Kartboy Pitch Stop Mount if it is metal/aluminum. Everything else seems legit to me, even that Lock down kit (http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/PERRIN/documents/instructions/subaru/pspsus525.pdf). Launch control is fine and I don't see why FFS would be a big issue really.

You may want to run the street tire index class unless you're going to change to r-compounds.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on February 10, 2010, 02:03:29 PM
The different Top mount and since I'm sure you changed the boost in your tune is automatic SM.  

David, you're thinking 2007 or 2008 rules. Boost is open in Street Prepared classes. Ever since the STi moved from ESP to BSP this has been in effect. Also the intercooler replacement is still Street Prepared legal.

I highly recommend you go to the first post in this thread, download the 2010 rules PDF's and read stock, and street prepared rules/regs. A lot has changed since the last time you read it.
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Post by: Aki on February 10, 2010, 05:09:00 PM
Well, to simplify, maybe, haha  :rolleyes:..  My car is as stated in the profile pic...  bone stock.  Nothing done to it whatsoever, all factory replacement parts, just some Kuhmo Solus KR21s.

From looking at the SCCA site, maybe HS?
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Rockcas on February 10, 2010, 05:17:54 PM
Interesting.  Good thing I ordered the new book then.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: WRXNFX on February 10, 2010, 05:49:36 PM
Interesting.  Good thing I ordered the new book then.

Yeah you can me Stage to in ESP with a WRX.  STX you cannot because a DP will cause CEL's and you cannot fix CEL's in STX (atleast in 2007).

Jon I have resisted you for the last time I will read the rules.

The GMBCS is odd because you are using the same turbo, same actuator, same wwiring harness, same ECU, just a different Solenoid and plumbing is a little different. 

Pitch mount is metal, the lock down kit has these 2 bolts that tie the rear diff subframe to the frame, pretty sure it is illegal for the same reason as the dog bone.

I read all these rules in 07, and even read there can be some confusing parts.. :(


Like Rockus said, they will eat me alive at a mid divs in SM...  :(
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: WRXNFX on February 10, 2010, 05:54:37 PM
Well, to simplify, maybe, haha  :rolleyes:..  My car is as stated in the profile pic...  bone stock.  Nothing done to it whatsoever, all factory replacement parts, just some Kuhmo Solus KR21s.

From looking at the SCCA site, maybe HS?

I see

Subaru models NOC H Stock HS

So I am pretty sure, yes HS, with the non-S Mini's
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on February 11, 2010, 02:59:32 PM
Well, to simplify, maybe, haha  :rolleyes:..  My car is as stated in the profile pic...  bone stock.  Nothing done to it whatsoever, all factory replacement parts, just some Kuhmo Solus KR21s.

From looking at the SCCA site, maybe HS?

Yes... but I would also consider the indexed street tire class.  HS - ST
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on February 11, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
Yeah you can me Stage to in ESP with a WRX.  STX you cannot because a DP will cause CEL's and you cannot fix CEL's in STX (atleast in 2007).

The bigger issue is you can't touch boost levels in ST* based classes.

Jon I have resisted you for the last time I will read the rules.

The GMBCS is odd because you are using the same turbo, same actuator, same wwiring harness, same ECU, just a different Solenoid and plumbing is a little different.

Understood, but no where does it say you can change the sensors to non-OE ones so it isn't legal. technically.

Pitch mount is metal, the lock down kit has these 2 bolts that tie the rear diff subframe to the frame, pretty sure it is illegal for the same reason as the dog bone.

Are you talking about the whiteline lock down kit?  The Perrin one looked like poly bushings you sandwich around the OE ones.

I see : http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/PERRIN/documents/instructions/subaru/pspsus525.pdf

yeah... those lock down bolts in the empty holes will be illegal for SP... I'd need to re-read SM too.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Aki on February 11, 2010, 03:32:33 PM
Since: "any DOT legal tire that fits on the OEM size rim" is the deal, would you think I'd benefit any from a stickier compound? 

If it'd mean being more competitive inside the whole class, I'd consider getting the most advantageous tire setup possible (and maybe a front sway bar)... 

But, if there's a big difference in competition between the overall and the indexed street tire class, I wouldn't want to go all out for the sake of a few seconds that ultimately don't matter.  (especially as the car will remain stock for an ever shorter amount of time... probably only one season)
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: WRXNFX on February 11, 2010, 04:30:34 PM
Understood, but no where does it say you can change the sensors to non-OE ones so it isn't legal. technically.

.....


yeah... those lock down bolts in the empty holes will be illegal for SP... I'd need to re-read SM too.

The Boost control solenoid is not a sensor, but I get your point.  I can swap back to a stocker, but I would have to have it tuned, or turn it myself.  :?

Yes, the bolts, the sandwicked ones should be golden in SP classes.

SM is looking better and better.  SM-ST maybe, but I will be so underprepared do I really want to be in the big ST pool?
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Chris C on February 11, 2010, 04:47:59 PM
You will need to adjust some parameters when you go back to the stock solenoid.  Which ones I have no idea.   ^_^

Run ST pax.  You are about as underpreped in SM ST as I am in ASP ST.   -_-
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on February 12, 2010, 02:07:43 PM
Since: "any DOT legal tire that fits on the OEM size rim" is the deal, would you think I'd benefit any from a stickier compound? 

If it'd mean being more competitive inside the whole class, I'd consider getting the most advantageous tire setup possible (and maybe a front sway bar)... 

But, if there's a big difference in competition between the overall and the indexed street tire class, I wouldn't want to go all out for the sake of a few seconds that ultimately don't matter.  (especially as the car will remain stock for an ever shorter amount of time... probably only one season)

If you're new to it... learn on what ever setup/tires you've got. don't jump to r-comps.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on February 12, 2010, 02:10:12 PM
Understood, but no where does it say you can change the sensors to non-OE ones so it isn't legal. technically.

.....


yeah... those lock down bolts in the empty holes will be illegal for SP... I'd need to re-read SM too.

The Boost control solenoid is not a sensor, but I get your point.  I can swap back to a stocker, but I would have to have it tuned, or turn it myself.  :?

Yes, the bolts, the sandwicked ones should be golden in SP classes.

SM is looking better and better.  SM-ST maybe, but I will be so underprepared do I really want to be in the big ST pool?

In all honesty I would just leave that solienoid and tune the way it is. Unless you're doing a nationl tour or pro or national championships... it's a moot point. Even still, it's not likely you will win at national events and you have to place high for people to want to find something illegal.

regionally you'll be fine. Even divisionally honestly.

Just know that technically, you are not legal.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: kevinmfb on April 12, 2010, 04:15:33 PM
I'm having issues with SCCA site at the moment.  The site is stalling out.

Anyway, I have an 09 WRX 5-door.

From the factory
-short throw shifter
-iPod connect

My add-ons
-HIDs
-K&N dropin filter
-WRX logo spraypainted on the intercooler
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: rick schumacher on April 14, 2010, 03:58:05 PM
probly wont be running my rs in any solos, but IF i choose to on a limb,,

short throw shifter
axleback exhaust
springs and struts
stock intake w/aftermarket filter
strut tower bar

would this make me
-dsp?
or would i stay in -st?
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on April 14, 2010, 05:33:10 PM
you forgot to list your wheel size (dia/width) and tire.

But sounds like ST unless you're running DOT-R or slick tires.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on April 14, 2010, 05:34:30 PM
I'm having issues with SCCA site at the moment.  The site is stalling out.

Anyway, I have an 09 WRX 5-door.

From the factory
-short throw shifter
-iPod connect

My add-ons
-HIDs
-K&N dropin filter
-WRX logo spraypainted on the intercooler

You should be OK for stock class (A Stock iirc). Although technically your short shifter would push you out of stock as they are port/dealer installed.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: corx on June 03, 2010, 07:48:08 PM
2010 gh6

short throw and bushings
cat-back
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on June 04, 2010, 06:11:26 AM
2010 gh6

short throw and bushings
cat-back


I don't know the new chassis codes, so is gh6 the Impreza 2.5i, wrx, or?

what wheels/tires are you on?
Any other changes from stock.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: corx on June 04, 2010, 09:18:16 PM
2.5i  ;)  stock tires and rims stock everything
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on June 05, 2010, 07:10:43 AM
your cat back is legal for stock, however I think the short shift moves you up to ST class.

You could probably run stock class just fine, but just be aware of your short shifter taking you out of stock.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Starch on September 15, 2010, 01:07:06 PM
So looking at autoxing soon. I should learn what class I'm in.

Current mods:
turboback exhaust
slotted rotors, ss brake lines
16"x8" wide wheels with star specs mounted on them
sparco fiberglass bucket seat, with schroth 4 point harness


Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on September 15, 2010, 01:14:16 PM
are you catless?
any tune?
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Starch on September 15, 2010, 01:49:51 PM
are you catless?
any tune?

Yes totally catless, yes tuned.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on September 15, 2010, 02:28:01 PM
Anything else? Kind of important mods. List EVERYTHING if you want a honest classing recommendation.

Given what I have heard so far... you are basically ESP. You could run in the ST pax index as well, classed as ESP-ST.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Starch on September 15, 2010, 02:32:31 PM
Anything else? Kind of important mods. List EVERYTHING if you want a honest classing recommendation.

Given what I have heard so far... you are basically ESP. You could run in the ST pax index as well, classed as ESP-ST.

ok Jon......... I've got an STI 2.5 liter bottom end, port and polished td04, Act heavy duty clutch, light weight flywheel, Heavier pressure plate, and a gutted stock up-pipe....Ok that's it.....hangs head....hehe

Basically I just want to run for fun and not end up being classed with super cars or cars built to Autox as I have 0 experience and no suspension mods at all.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: bfinoch on October 12, 2010, 08:10:23 AM
2005 STI

mods
ACT 6 puck clutch
hks boost controller
AMR T60R turbo
850cc inj
Walbro 255
Invidia 3" TBE
P&l uppipe with tial 38mm EWG
perrin CAI
Perrin 3" turbo inlet
Custom Water to air intercooler
TGV delets
Perrin LWCP
Coilovers
will have track slicks 245/40R17
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Rockcas on October 12, 2010, 08:19:14 AM
2005 STI

mods
ACT 6 puck clutch
hks boost controller
AMR T60R turbo
850cc inj
Walbro 255
Invidia 3" TBE
P&l uppipe with tial 38mm EWG
perrin CAI
Perrin 3" turbo inlet
Custom Water to air intercooler
TGV delets
Perrin LWCP
Coilovers
will have track slicks 245/40R17

You are SM = Street Modified
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: bfinoch on October 12, 2010, 08:23:59 AM
sweet thanks
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on October 12, 2010, 08:49:19 AM
It's not that cut and dry.

- full interior?

- any other interior or cosmetic tweaks?

- what do you mean by 'slicks'? be specific on brand/model.
If they are slicks like we in the sport know of, they won't be SM legal.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: bfinoch on October 12, 2010, 09:00:49 AM
well no back seats and trunk will be empty

not sure on the tires yet im getting them next week from a buddy. im sure its what all the autox people use
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: Rockcas on October 12, 2010, 09:12:24 AM
If they have a tread line down them they would be SM legal. 

Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on October 12, 2010, 09:37:34 AM
well no back seats and trunk will be empty

not sure on the tires yet im getting them next week from a buddy. im sure its what all the autox people use

That is a broad statement... There are DOT-R approved for stock, street prepared and street mod classes, then there are 'true slicks' that are for Prepared and Mod classes.

Your interior changes are still legal for SM.

It will just come down to your tires now.

What coilovers do you have?
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: bfinoch on October 12, 2010, 10:40:57 AM
the tires have the line in them

and the coilovers are megan racing (i know they suck but i went cheap here)
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on October 12, 2010, 11:12:10 AM
a 'it has a line' is not sufficient at all LOL... brand/model info when you have it and then you can be classed properly.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: bfinoch on October 12, 2010, 01:02:12 PM
hoosier R6
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on October 12, 2010, 02:28:16 PM
Ok.  You will be SM them.

Sorry to hear you'll be stuck on the R6 for auto-x. They won't get up to temp anywhere but on a race track.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: bfinoch on October 12, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
be better than all seasons
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: omahasubaru on October 12, 2010, 02:44:43 PM
to an extent yes. but in the long run, if you tune setup around them, you will have to re-do everything when it comes time to get A series Hoosiers or other DOT-R or slicks for auto-x.
Title: Re: What SCCA class Am I in? post questions here
Post by: bfinoch on October 12, 2010, 02:54:25 PM
thats fine
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: julozas on February 01, 2012, 05:35:51 PM
help with the class im in please

2005 sti; mods are as follows

OS tune from tank
new turbo (stock tho)
full invidia n1 TBE exhaust(not sure what the hangers of it are, just the ones that come with it i guess)

not sure if tires matter at all but ill be getting new ones in the spring anyways
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on February 01, 2012, 07:07:00 PM
Probably STU, tires would only matter if you had full slicks or went above 245 tire size (that would push you in to SM?)
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: julozas on February 01, 2012, 07:56:27 PM
can you provide any explanation on what that means as far as how hard the class is to compete in?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on February 01, 2012, 08:01:56 PM
your tune likely isn't legal for STU. So you'd actually be in BSP or SM.

Don't worry about what class you fall into or how competitive you will be, just come out and have a good time and worry about that later if you get into it and want to be competitive, then you can consider setting your car up for a specific class.

My $0.02
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on February 02, 2012, 10:07:42 AM
your tune likely isn't legal for STU. So you'd actually be in BSP or SM.

Don't worry about what class you fall into or how competitive you will be, just come out and have a good time and worry about that later if you get into it and want to be competitive, then you can consider setting your car up for a specific class.

My $0.02

Truth^^

Don't sweat it the first time out, just have fun and get a feel for it.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: julozas on February 02, 2012, 03:18:22 PM
alright i appreciate the help guys.

i also remembered some other mods:

K&N air intake(was already on car when we bought it so thats why i forgot about it)
New struts(didn't put these on, my pa did so i forgot about them), also i dont know what kind they are as i didnt install them myself
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: julozas on February 03, 2012, 12:42:52 PM
Can anyone recommend a website where I can get a helmet for cheap? One that is going to be within regulation obviously?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on February 03, 2012, 12:54:53 PM
You'll want to look for a SA2010 as in, Snell approved for 2010 (helmet safety ratings go on a 5/10 year cycle).  There will be 2005 ones on closeout now but if you plan on using it for any amount of time, it makes more sense to get something that will last.

Here's where I looked for my own:
http://www.ogracing.com/ (http://www.ogracing.com/)
http://www.soloperformance.com/ (http://www.soloperformance.com/)
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/ (http://www.speedwaymotors.com/)
http://www.soloracer.com/ (http://www.soloracer.com/)
http://www.saferacer.com/ (http://www.saferacer.com/)
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: julozas on February 03, 2012, 03:17:32 PM
ok cool thanks for the list of websites!

also do any of the mods that i forgot about change what class ill be in?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on February 03, 2012, 03:27:52 PM
nope.

You can cheap out and get an M rated helmet, but if you have any plans of going to MAM or MPH (roadcourses around here) you will NEED SA rated.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: julozas on February 04, 2012, 11:49:24 AM
yeap just ordered my SA2010 helmet!! so excited to get out there and tear up some courses
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on February 04, 2012, 06:27:35 PM
excited for you!  Look forward to seeing you out at events.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: julozas on February 05, 2012, 07:15:52 PM
i look forward to being at all events. im applying for a job (gallup) where to get to make your own schedule for each week, so i will not be working on any of the race days!
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on February 06, 2012, 09:56:13 AM
Nice! 

Glad more people are getting in the game; welcome to the fun!
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: RedOxRu on February 06, 2012, 07:48:52 PM
Since everyone else is asking...

Bone stock 2011 WRX on the stock/factory summer tires?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on February 06, 2012, 11:41:13 PM
Hmm, D Stock, looks like.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on February 07, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
^^ this.  Or you could run in the street-tire index class.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omaha_919 on March 05, 2012, 06:52:31 PM
05 Saab 9-2x Linear (with Aero hood)

- TEIN CO's
- F & R sway bars
- Headers
- mild head porting
- CAI
- RG stickers   ;)


I'm guessing either DSP, ESP, or FSP  :unsure:
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: onemanzu on March 19, 2012, 12:21:07 PM
I know they have changed and added some classes recently. I have a stock awd forester. Am I just in SA? Can someone clarify for me please?

Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: rallyfan555 on March 19, 2012, 07:38:40 PM
wondering what class I'm in, not finding where to register for the first event on the NE SCCA website either.

1999 2.5RS

-Kumho all season tires
-stock exhaust to aftermarket muffler
-short ram intake to stock torque box
-20mm wrx rear sway bar.   

 that's all my "mods" :P
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: MasterForce on March 20, 2012, 08:16:42 AM
wondering what class I'm in, not finding where to register for the first event on the NE SCCA website either.

1999 2.5RS

-Kumho all season tires
-stock exhaust to aftermarket muffler
-short ram intake to stock torque box
-20mm wrx rear sway bar.   

 that's all my "mods" :P

here you go to register

http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.advert/uidEvent/E8B274AD-E2FD-A457-3506154EB4E2C0DE (http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.advert/uidEvent/E8B274AD-E2FD-A457-3506154EB4E2C0DE)

Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Bounty Hunter on March 20, 2012, 10:10:40 AM
The new classes will add some confusion for selecting the best/right class.  If you're not sure I'd say just register for what you think might be the correct class then talk to someone when you get tech'd and/or confirm registration.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: diesyl krysl on March 27, 2012, 11:25:50 AM
Im thinking of running Auto X this year. Just curious what class I would fall under.
03 Cavalier with aftermarket sound upgrades and a K&N replacement air filter. Nothing performance, interior, body work, rims or tires changed on this car though. What class would I fall under?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 27, 2012, 11:49:41 AM
These are not gospel, please review the Solo Rules yourself to be sure (as stated, this can be updated at the time of registration/check-in) but, as per my best estimates:

Nebraska Region classes: http://nrscca.com/solo_classes.php (http://nrscca.com/solo_classes.php)
Solo Rules: http://www.scca.com/solo/content.cfm?cid=44517 (http://www.scca.com/solo/content.cfm?cid=44517)


Im thinking of running Auto X this year. Just curious what class I would fall under.
03 Cavalier with aftermarket sound upgrades and a K&N replacement air filter. Nothing performance, interior, body work, rims or tires changed on this car though. What class would I fall under?
G Stock


wondering what class I'm in, not finding where to register for the first event on the NE SCCA website either.

1999 2.5RS

-Kumho all season tires
-stock exhaust to aftermarket muffler
-short ram intake to stock torque box
-20mm wrx rear sway bar.   

 that's all my "mods" :P
Street Touring (due to intake), probably STC


I know they have changed and added some classes recently. I have a stock awd forester. Am I just in SA? Can someone clarify for me please?
H Stock
(SA is your class for RallyX)


05 Saab 9-2x Linear (with Aero hood)

- TEIN CO's
- F & R sway bars
- Headers
- mild head porting
- CAI
- RG stickers   ;)

I'm guessing either DSP, ESP, or FSP  :unsure:
Betting ESP if they treat the Aero like a WRX (which would be appropriate ;))
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Bounty Hunter on March 27, 2012, 12:14:35 PM
wondering what class I'm in, not finding where to register for the first event on the NE SCCA website either.

1999 2.5RS

-Kumho all season tires
-stock exhaust to aftermarket muffler
-short ram intake to stock torque box
-20mm wrx rear sway bar.   

 that's all my "mods" :P
Street Prepared (due to intake), probably FSP

I haven't been as active the last couple years, but I think a more appropriate class might be Street Touring.  STS for 2.5RS right?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 27, 2012, 12:17:59 PM
Quite right!  Didn't see that intake is also on ST, as the short ram is the most serious mod in terms of classes. 

So, since they updated the ST classes, you'd be in STC (Street Touring Compact) with me!

Oh yeah, now it's on!  :subaru:
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: bspec on March 27, 2012, 08:58:18 PM
This should be fun. My understanding is that Alexa would be Street Modified / Road Tire Modified (RTM). Since I'm a novice, I know I'm not competing based on my car but on my very limited skillz. Is there anything I should be concerned with for passing tech?

Mods
Engine & Performance
BNR HTA68 8cm hotside in VF40 case & BNR/FP Oil Line
Deatschwerks 1000cc injectors
Walbro 255lph fuel pump
ACT Heavy Duty pressure plate and Street Disc
OEM STi flywheel
Invidia divorced belmouth catless downpipe
RacerX FMIC
KSTech 73mm short CAI
GrimmSpeed EBCS & Perrin inlet
Perrin recirculating valve
GrimmSpeed AOS
GrimmSpeed TGV deletes
GrimmSpeed up, dp, IM, TGV gaskets
PTP Subaru turbo blanket
Aeromotive 13109 fuel pressure regulator
TurboXS fuel rails
TurboSmart boost gauge in AVO Legacy pod

Electronics & Tuning
GM 3bar MAP Sensor
Tactrix Openport 2.0
Innovate LC-1 Wideband O2
Acer AspireOne 10.1" netbook
Stage 3 e85 tank'd @ 24psi (4.8 MAFv)

Drivetrain
Subaru Extra S for transmission and rear differential
Group N pitch stop
Group N motor mounts
Group N trans mount

Wheels & Tires
Sumitomo HTR ZIII around gunmetallic Rota Gravel 18x8 wheels (1" wider than stock)

Suspension & Brakes
OEM stock spec.B Billstein inverted strut
Hawk HPS pads
Mach V stainless steel brake lines
ATE Super Blue brake fluid
Grimmspeed Master Cylinder Brace for the 08-09 VDC Legacy

Exterior
Chrome on grill painted flat black
Black screen in front of FMIC

Interior
Tactrix and LC-1 USB cables run through glovebox
Netbook stored in glovebox
Nav disk version 6 update
Trunk Monkey


You did say list all of them, right?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: MasterForce on March 27, 2012, 09:08:44 PM
just checked out the weather and its gonna be a hot one. hi is 86 and its gonna be super windy with winds at 22+ mph.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 28, 2012, 08:40:06 AM
This should be fun. My understanding is that Alexa would be Street Modified / Road Tire Modified (RTM). Since I'm a novice, I know I'm not competing based on my car but on my very limited skillz. Is there anything I should be concerned with for passing tech?

You did say list all of them, right?
Yep!  ;D

You shouldn't have any problem passing tech, Andy. 

They're just going to check a few basics: throttle return works -- won't stick wide open (not sure if you have drive by wire or not, non-issue if so), wheel bearings aren't toast, brakes work, tires aren't showing cords, car is emptied of loose objects. 

That's pretty much it.

And I think you're right with the SM.


just checked out the weather and its gonna be a hot one. hi is 86 and its gonna be super windy with winds at 22+ mph.  :-\ :-\

Better than rain!
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: bspec on March 28, 2012, 12:01:48 PM
Does the trunk monkey count as a loose object? I hear I need him to maintain proper weight distribution.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 28, 2012, 12:04:50 PM
Rick and I zip-tied a monkey to the rear tow hook at RallyX Nationals, but I think we got away with that since it was outside the vehicle. 

If the trunk monkey's got a belt or harness, I think you'll be fine.  He'll probably need to grab a loaner helmet though, if he doesn't have his own...
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: bspec on March 28, 2012, 12:14:09 PM
Actually, he's got Velcro on his hands and feet. He hands from the trunk spring bars and is Velcro-ed to the carpet, so that should be considered "attached". He is a thinkorswim monkey. They used to give them out to anyone who opened a new account (they might still, not sure). He needs a name, but I guess that's a topic for another thread.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 28, 2012, 01:15:32 PM
I think he should be fine ;)

Name is another matter... maybe we'll see something inspiring develop this Sunday!
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: rallyfan555 on March 28, 2012, 02:59:08 PM
So I will compete in the same class as you aki? lol don't be afraid, im packing auto trans and nothing else. :subaru:
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 28, 2012, 03:29:06 PM
Yep, we should be in the same class!  I may have a few advantages in my setup, but there's never any guarantees in racing, as in most of life, haha. 

In any case, it'll be nice to have another Subie to run against (usually 2-4 drivers at most in ST, anyhow).

Best of luck to you and see you out there!
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: rallyfan555 on March 28, 2012, 03:51:46 PM
See ya! I'll be coming from a 2 hour drive so the car will have had plenty of "warm up" time before the event haha.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Bounty Hunter on March 28, 2012, 10:25:48 PM
This should be fun. My understanding is that Alexa would be Street Modified / Road Tire Modified (RTM). Since I'm a novice, I know I'm not competing based on my car but on my very limited skillz. Is there anything I should be concerned with for passing tech?

You did say list all of them, right?
Yep!  ;D

You shouldn't have any problem passing tech, Andy. 

They're just going to check a few basics: throttle return works -- won't stick wide open (not sure if you have drive by wire or not, non-issue if so), wheel bearings aren't toast, brakes work, tires aren't showing cords, car is emptied of loose objects. 

That's pretty much it.

And I think you're right with the SM.

This should go without saying...but you also have to have working seat belts/harness.  They will also check your helmet if you have one. 

When you arrive just find a parking spot and unload.  After you do that find TECH and drive over to it.  When they come over to check your car make sure you open your hood and trunk/hatch. 

Don't forget to have fun.  That's what AutoX is all about.   :discomonkey
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 29, 2012, 09:01:53 AM
Yep!  Good points, all around^^    :discomonkey  :discomonkey  :discomonkey

Forgot to add one minor thing, but still important.  You'll want to make sure your battery tie down is secure and the battery is solidly in place.  Also that there isn't excessive corrosion/build up on the terminals.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Bounty Hunter on March 29, 2012, 11:48:31 AM
Yep!  Good points, all around^^    :discomonkey  :discomonkey  :discomonkey

Forgot to add one minor thing, but still important.  You'll want to make sure your battery tie down is secure and the battery is solidly in place.  Also that there isn't excessive corrosion/build up on the terminals.

 :discomonkey 

How could we forget to add this stuff earlier in the thread?   ;D

After looking at the online registration it looks like we have a good chunk of Subarus signed up.  It should be fun! 
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: julozas on March 29, 2012, 03:19:50 PM
im planning on being at this one(i got work off and i just need to make sure the car is ready to go), and if there isnt any major problems i will be there!!!
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: rallyfan555 on March 29, 2012, 09:06:17 PM
where is the online registration list?! I want to see the subies! haha :subaru:
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Bounty Hunter on March 29, 2012, 10:15:06 PM
where is the online registration list?! I want to see the subies! haha :subaru:

http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.advert/uidEvent/E8B274AD-E2FD-A457-3506154EB4E2C0DE (http://www.motorsportreg.com/index.cfm/event/event.advert/uidEvent/E8B274AD-E2FD-A457-3506154EB4E2C0DE)

Click on view current registration in the top right corner.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: MasterForce on March 30, 2012, 06:01:06 AM
definately going now. its gonna be a hot one tho! 91!!! anyways will there be like a place to buy drinks or do we have to bring our stuff?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: bspec on March 30, 2012, 08:13:39 AM
That's a good question. Will there be concessions available? Is it OK to leave and return to the site? Can one of the experienced guys post a list of what to bring?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 30, 2012, 09:06:20 AM
There are usually about 3-5 coolers with soda and water that are provided free to participants.  Not sure if they park will have any concessions, but it is cool to leave and return to the site as needed, as long as you're still attending to your worker duties.

I always try to bring a granola bar or something else simple just in case/for breakfast.  And I always have some extra water on hand, but there's really never been a need.

Bring sun lotion!!  On a day like we're supposed to have, that will be something you'll be missing by the end of it, if you're without.

Most every event there has been lunch provided free as well, given the weather you can assume grilling: hot links and brats were on the menu for the last RallyX, for example (they include chips and such usually as well).  The food has been available to non-drivers as well in the past.  Often it's just open ended, sometimes drivers will go through the line before spectators have a go.  On a few occasions there have been pay or donation based food crews that set up (family type deals/fundraisers ~$5 at most), but that's more rare than the SCCA provided ones and still great value for money when it is that way.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: bspec on March 30, 2012, 09:17:17 AM
Sounds good. What about attire? Do I remember correctly that drivers need a long sleeve cotton shirt? I don't have a helmet, so I'll need to use one of the loaners (already been discussed). What about pants? Jeans or shorts OK? Shoes? Any type of closed toe? Do I need to bring my headsock for wear under the helmet?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 30, 2012, 09:59:02 AM
According to the 2012 rules, drivers must at a minimum have 100% cotton clothing (no blends) from neck to ankles and wrists, so long pants and long sleeve T-shirt, but in my experience short sleeves have been o.k. in the past...  (these might be rules as applied to national events only, or they are going to be more stringent this year, but you might want to pack a long sleeve T just in case).  Jeans or whatever material for pants is fine.

I've looked a bit on the SCCA forums, and long pants and fully closed shoes are definitely a requirement, I think we're just more flexible on the short sleeves.  If another SCCA member wants to jump in, I'm all ears!

They were going to do headsocks for the loaners this year/last year (for a fee) but that never really materialized, so if you want to bring your own headsock, groovy, but not required as of this time.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: rallyfan555 on March 30, 2012, 02:51:28 PM
There are usually about 3-5 coolers with soda and water that are provided free to participants.  Not sure if they park will have any concessions, but it is cool to leave and return to the site as needed, as long as you're still attending to your worker duties.

Ok, so when I registered and payed online I didn't realize we had to choose a worker position...can I choose this when I get there? If I am competing am I considered to be a "worker" too?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 30, 2012, 03:03:15 PM
To be eligible to compete in the event, you will be working the event while the other heat does their runs. 

Basically, there will be two run groups comprised of several different classes of cars, each.  One group does their runs while the drivers from the other group help work the course.  When the first group is finished with their runs, the two groups trade places.

You can put down your preferred worker assignments when registering online.  This is not a guarantee as far as I know, just a preferred position.  And that makes sense, as you can't have 20 people working the timing and no one picking up cones  :P

In annny case, don't sweat it, as soon as the driver's meeting is over (immediately before things kick off) someone will give out worker assignments and send the first heat workers out to do their thing.  Same thing will happen after the first heat is over.  As with anything else at an event, if in doubt, ask someone who looks like they might know!
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: rallyfan555 on March 31, 2012, 08:42:11 AM
Ok thanks alot Aki, looking forward to seeing you down there tomorrow. 
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 31, 2012, 10:01:26 AM
No problem, see you then!

(I'm off to RG to get my brakes freshened up for tomorrow, getting psyched!)
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: bspec on March 31, 2012, 06:17:46 PM
I signed up to set up. What time should I show up? Also, I'm just now getting over a nasty bout of food poisoning from Wednesday and am still rather dehydrated. If there is any way I could get an assignment with reduced sun, that would help a ton. (Also just learned that I'm allergic to sunscreen)
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on March 31, 2012, 08:52:51 PM
I think you should be solid, given circumstances.  Talk to EVM Jon Simmons, Mark Walker or Matt Cox when you get there.

I'm shooting to be there at ~9:30 or so.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: thrillamilla on April 23, 2012, 07:34:40 PM
Alright so I've been talking with Aki and another friend that does AutoX regularly and I we have come to the conclusion that I would be in BSP but thought I should ask for more opinions to be sure. Anyway, I have a 1987 Nissan 300ZX turbo with an automatic. I have replaced the intake box and flat panel filter with a cone filter, added a manual boost controller set at a higher boost than stock, replaced the stock adjustable shocks in the rear with stock replacements from napa, and have cut the cat out and replaced with a pipe, and also cut off the muffler and replaced with pipe(so essentially just straight pipe). The tires are slightly different that stock...stock size is 225/50R16 and I have 225/55R16 installed.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: julozas on April 25, 2012, 05:14:09 PM
idk man you have altered your boost and have gotten rid of the cats, someone out there last sunday told me that would put MY CAR in SM....idk about your car tho..hope that helped lol
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on April 27, 2012, 12:31:29 PM
Cats are not required for Street Prepared.
Boost levels are open in Street Prepared as well.

Those two mods have pushed you into SP. BSP is a place for it to play, however... If you are on street tires, then I would consider running the the RTP PAX class with other Street Prepared cars on street tires.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: thrillamilla on April 27, 2012, 12:42:08 PM
Cats are not required for Street Prepared.
Boost levels are open in Street Prepared as well.

Those two mods have pushed you into SP. BSP is a place for it to play, however... If you are on street tires, then I would consider running the the RTP PAX class with other Street Prepared cars on street tires.

I am still on street tires, so ill enter in TRP then. Thanks!
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on April 27, 2012, 06:25:16 PM
Not TRP... RTP. thanks.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: rallyfan555 on May 15, 2012, 07:38:20 AM
Im curious if I should still be in STC jon?  I put my stock air intake back on, the only mod I have now is a 20mm RSB. 
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on May 15, 2012, 08:06:47 AM
Im curious if I should still be in STC jon?  I put my stock air intake back on, the only mod I have now is a 20mm RSB. 

With the new rules for 2012, front or rear swaybar can be changed. So if your front swaybar is stock, then you can move to stock class assuming your only other mod is a cat-back. Once you put that header on, you'll be back in STC.

Jon
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: rallyfan555 on May 16, 2012, 07:58:16 AM
Ok thanks.  So I'm assuming I will be in G stock. 
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on May 16, 2012, 08:25:19 AM
Yes... but assumptions are dangerous. ;) I don't know what all is done to your car.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: rallyfan555 on May 17, 2012, 08:19:26 AM
lol just the 20mm WRX rear sway bar!  ;D
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: onemanzu on June 20, 2012, 02:01:20 PM
Help!

Jon has attempted to get this through my head, but I guess I just don't get it.

I'm looking to end up in STX as the class I drive in, it has rules and stipulations like all classes, on of which is that you can tune, but there are certain tuning rules.

Attached are the rules in regards to tuning. What does it all mean?

You can not adjust boost, is all that I take away from it, any others?

Let me know. I might reconsider my whole approach to class if I can't modify the tune at all.

Thanks for any help.

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Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on June 20, 2012, 03:10:29 PM
I think you take away correctly. Perhaps I wasn't clear in text. This thread is exactly where discussion should be as many others may have the same question.

You cannot touch ANYTHING related to boost. That is why my WRX hits boost cut in the higher gears sadly.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: onemanzu on June 20, 2012, 03:45:11 PM
Ahh, okay, you scared me just a little. You said I could only touch fuel and timing, not that I have any idea what I'm talking about, but I thought there was more then that to a tune.

No problem posting these concerns. As much as it helps others, it really gets me going on the right path to getting set up for Auto X.

Thanks for the input Jon!

Last question, based on 14.10.E multiple catalytice converters may be replaced by a single unit. Does that mean the deletion of an up pipe cat is permitted?
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on June 20, 2012, 04:39:01 PM
only if it can be done legally.

Again. track down that STX thread on NASIOC that was specific to an STX legal setup. 

There was a lot of discussion what you can't really remove the up-pipe cat unless you're fine w/ replacing EGT sensors regularly as defeaters of the code are not legal.

If you can't find the thread (it's not the standard STX thread) lmk and I'll track it down.

EDIT: It is in the first post now is : http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20808519&postcount=1 (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=20808519&postcount=1) see 'quest for stx legal exhaust'
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: onemanzu on June 20, 2012, 09:10:33 PM
holy poop that's a good read. ill be back in a few days.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: onemanzu on June 22, 2012, 12:30:46 PM
the ambiguity confuses me. It appears as though they removed a lot of the EPA/ CEL ruling from 2007 debacle, when those threads linked were started, but I cannot find a clear yes or no.

I sent a letter to SEB, hoping to hear back in a few days.

Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Aki on June 22, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Regardless of where you end up (and though I know it matters, don't sweat it at this stage in the game), glad to hear you'll be at more events in the near future!
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: sjw on June 23, 2012, 09:55:09 AM
I going to bring the Swift to drive tommorow, not sure what class it is.

1992 Suzuki Swift, modified suspension (coilovers, camber plates, swaybars), intake, header, street tires.

- Shawn
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: OBP WRX on June 07, 2013, 05:35:32 PM
Was seriously out gunned in RTP/ESP.  Now a Blouch evo 3 16g is going to make me even less competive in RTP/SM but it should be a blast the other 357 days of the year :)
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on June 10, 2013, 01:26:54 PM
Ok. I think I missed your question in there.  If you want to get faster in solo, save money from your next mods and spend them on the driver by attending an autocross school.  No mods will make you as fast as the driver mod.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: OBP WRX on June 10, 2013, 07:39:21 PM
Just verifying a different turbo bumps me to SM.  I will keep an eye out for chances at some instruction.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: omahasubaru on June 13, 2013, 05:59:35 AM
Oh... that was a question. ;)

Yes, you can't run ESP anymore.. SM is the next best choice for you, assuming your car is legal for that class otherwise.
Title: Re: What class am I in? (Solo/AutoX edition)
Post by: Reverend on November 13, 2017, 01:00:26 PM
I'm not sure if there have been significant changes to the classes since this thread was created, but there are a TON of classes in Autocross... especially from someone who has been used to Rallycross classes for the last 4 years.  I imagine with much more involvement and competition, having multiple classes would make sense for Autocross but for someone starting out, it's a bit overwhelming.

The same could be said for either, but if you've been casually modifying your car and then decide to start doing Autocross or Rallycross, you can easily figure out that one or two of your modifications put you in a much higher class than maybe you should be in.  I think this makes it a little harder for people to get into competitive driving when they realize that they either need to add more or revert back to stock just to fit into a class and stand a chance.