Author Topic: Bad LearningView  (Read 1393 times)

Offline bspec

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1897
  • S3eIC
Bad LearningView
« on: August 06, 2013, 09:11:33 PM »
This is what LearningView looks like when your inlet slips off your turbo. IAM 0. Yikes! And yes, IAM going to 0 after the inlet slips off your turbo is a pretty good euphemism too.

Code: [Select]
CAL ID:A2TB001L
Description: 08 USDM Legacy GT spec.B MT
ECU ID:5212785107

IAM 0

ATM. PRESSURE 13.92 psi
IAT 93.2 F
ECT 197.6 F
A/F LRN #3 N/A

A/F Learning #1:
0 - <5.60 5.60 - <10.00 10.00 - <40.00 40.00+
-5.2 1.7 -0.8 -8.2

FLKC Table  0 - <1.60 1.60 - <1.94 1.94 - <2.30 2.30 - <2.50 2.50+
0 - <2400    3.05 0 0 0 0
2400 - <3000 2.69 0.2 0 0 0
3000 - <3600 1.47 0 0 0 0
3600 - <4200 1.38 0 0 0 0
4200 - <4800 0 0 0 0 0
4800 - <5400 0 0 0 0 0.2
5400+        0 0 0 0 0
the bottom line is this, people just need to realize that when they buy cheap CO's [KW on down], they are buying cheap, poorly engineered shocks for the sake of having height adjust-ability. - whitetiger on legacygt.com

Offline joeleodee

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1369
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2013, 06:22:55 AM »
I see nothing wrong here.   :unsure:

Offline bspec

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1897
  • S3eIC
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2013, 07:14:17 AM »
Oh, and I found out my hybrid BCS is hooked up wrong. Immediately before this LV, after fixing the inlet, boost was hitting 23 psi. I used a diagram on NASIOC to plumb it. Anyone have a confirmed correct way to plumb the hybrid BCS?
the bottom line is this, people just need to realize that when they buy cheap CO's [KW on down], they are buying cheap, poorly engineered shocks for the sake of having height adjust-ability. - whitetiger on legacygt.com

Offline joeleodee

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1369
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2013, 08:27:43 AM »
How was yours hooked up?

Here's how I have mine hooked.  Jason Z. provided this diagram for me.
 
« Last Edit: August 07, 2013, 08:29:24 AM by joeleodee »

Offline kevinmfb

  • Elite Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4083
  • 09 OBP WRX Hatch
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2013, 11:14:19 AM »
This is how my hybrid system is installed. ^^^^
 

Offline bspec

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1897
  • S3eIC
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2013, 11:02:54 AM »
Hmm. That is exactly how mine is hooked up.
the bottom line is this, people just need to realize that when they buy cheap CO's [KW on down], they are buying cheap, poorly engineered shocks for the sake of having height adjust-ability. - whitetiger on legacygt.com

Offline joeleodee

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1369
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2013, 05:55:30 PM »
What makes you think it's wrong?

Offline bspec

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1897
  • S3eIC
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2013, 06:49:24 PM »
Because when IAM went to 0, it was hitting 23.3 psi during a 3rd gear pull. What should happen is the ECU disables boost control on the EBCS, limiting boost to wastegate spring pressure. I have the upgraded spring, but that shouldn't be much above 15psi. I do know that the ECU when into failsafe because it hit failsafe fueling (richer than the equivalent of 10 gasonline AFR, and I found my PLX wideband/VBG1 only reads down to 10 AFR).
the bottom line is this, people just need to realize that when they buy cheap CO's [KW on down], they are buying cheap, poorly engineered shocks for the sake of having height adjust-ability. - whitetiger on legacygt.com

Offline joeleodee

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1369
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2013, 05:46:44 AM »
It's my understanding that running the MBC eliminates that particular failsafe whether you have an EBCS running in parallel anyway. 

Offline bspec

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1897
  • S3eIC
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2013, 07:05:44 AM »
Hmm... Not sure I follow that. Why run a hybrid then and not just MBC? I thought the point of the hybrid setup was to keep the ebcs functionality and use the mbc to cap over boost.
the bottom line is this, people just need to realize that when they buy cheap CO's [KW on down], they are buying cheap, poorly engineered shocks for the sake of having height adjust-ability. - whitetiger on legacygt.com

Offline joeleodee

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1369
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2013, 08:21:01 AM »
Keeping the functionality of the ebcs in hybrid setup basically means prevention of ptfb that's common in mbc only setups. What's happening is that the ebcs handles anything below WOT, and at WOT, the mbc takes over. That's how I understand it.  How are your wgdc tables set up?  Jaz and I had a discussion about it several months back in my tuning thread.   Read a little through that and you'll see how mine is.

Offline joeleodee

  • Moderators
  • Elite Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1369
Re: Bad LearningView
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2013, 09:08:47 PM »
In seeking out advice, there's something else that must be going on.  I was wrong about the hybrid eliminating the failsafe in your conditions.  Let me look more into this.